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as defense secretary, moderate senator from nebraska, drawing fire mainly from republicans. all but negating the president's attempt to reach across the aisle. hagel has been criticized for his criticism what he calls the jewish lobby which he says has inintimidated members of congress. he is seen by be republicans being weak on iriran. the president may face complications in head of the homeland security john brennan to head the cia. he worked for the cia for 25 years. his selection to head the post not draws as much criticism as republicans see an opening to once again probe the ashes of the tragedy at the u.s. consulate in benghazi that cost the life of an american ambassador and three others. heather? heather: wendell goler in washington. thank you so much. sounds just like about everything including the kitsch -- kitchen sink in washingtoners for more let's talk with david drucker, associate politics he had tore roll call. there is great deal of thought for the news conference the president has a major point he wants to make. why now? why today, david? >> part of it the first term is wi
category that include the most popular guns used for self-defense, competition, and hunting. when president obama promises that no one's talking about taking away your hunting rifle or your self-defense handgun, it matters that gun control activists may, in fact, be talking about taking away your hunting rifle or your self-defense handgun, whether they know it or not. so let's forgo the arbitrary, ambiguous, fearmongering terms and get real specific about what we actually mean by gun control. it may be politically effective to rail against rapid fire, high capacity, assault weapons. doesn't actually mean anything. so if we're serious, we should at least start by getting the terms right. okay. that does it for "the cycle." martin, it's all yours. >> just a quick question. how many rounds did jared loughner fire off before he was tackled? >> what's your point? >> how many rounds had he fired off? >> i'm not sure. i don't remember. >> 31. >> okay. >> he was actually tackled because he was reloading. >> we should be trying to stop crazy people and criminals, martin, from shooting one person, no
. the cuts we have our demate to parties other than medicare, renegade, social security and defense, mean that we spend on anything from defense to public safety less as a share of our economy then has been true for a generation. that is not a recipe for growth. we have to do more to stabilize our finances, but also spur more growth in the short term. i am open to making modest adjustments to programs like medicare for future generations. i have also said that we need more revenue through tax reform by closing loopholes and our tax code for the wealthiest americans. if we combine a balanced package of savings from spending on healthcare and revenues from closing loopholes, we can solve the deficit issue without sacrificing our investment in things like education that will help us grow. it turns out the american people agree with me. they listened to an entire years debate over this. they made a clear decision about the approach. they do not think it is smart to have tax breaks for the wealthiest americans. they want us to get our books and order in a balanced way where everybody pulls the
and say to republicans, you want to reign in defense or control the growth of defense, too, i don't care what the purpose is, but if you're going to mention kids, remind us that they are our future. right now, to your point, charlie, they will be stuck paying some very, very big bills, but, again, it's one thing to convince people of your age, charlie, of that, and another to get the message across to just innocent little kids, but that is going to be a paramount issue because as steve pointed out, it's going to address kids still unborn, that the rate we're going, how do you tell people, charlie, that for generations yet to come, none of this is sustainable, the rate we're going. >> well, i think it's important to frame the argument in terms of morality. the president mentioned morality, that it's the moral thing to do to get gun control. is it moral to spend children's morn before they had a chance to vote. is it moral to spend social security trust fund if the money does not exist? frame a moral pretext rather than a mathematic one. young people might be able to relate to that. they w
qaeda, as a spent force. but, just this week, when this terrorist action happened, defense secretary panetta talked about al qaeda, in a very different way. let's watch: >> president barack obama: we've decimated al qaeda's current leadership and brought usama bin laden to justice he deserved. [cheers and applause]. >> al qaeda is still there. they are still a threat. they are a threat in yemen and a threat in somalia. they are a threat as we speak in mali. >> chris: does the president now recognize that al qaeda is not decimated, but is in fact resurging in the countries that leon panetta talked about and what is he prepared to do to take them out in algeria and libya and across the region. >> the president recognizes that. each and every day he is monitoring activity an attempting to disrupt them. >> chris: why in the campaign did he say they were decimated. >> there is no question the core al qaeda leadership in the region has been decimated and you are seeing across the globe groups mushrooming up and what we have done in yemen and in northern africa -- but, again we'll take the
have people recognize that when it comes to defense spending. some of the same people say we have to cut spending or complain that government jobs don't do anything, but when it comes to the defense contractor in their district, they think it is an important part of the economy in their district and that we should not stop spending on that. let's just make sure we're not spending on those other people. [no audio] my hope is that common sense prevails. that is always my preference. i think that would be the preference of the american people and it would be good for the economy. let me just repeat. if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficit sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner in me. we could achieve that fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are and we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take and we have done half of the deficit reduction we need to stabilize. there has probably been more pain and trauma in getting there than we needed. finishing t
hagel for defense secretary nomination might come up. after a week of white house gun violence meetings, it's not clear if the president will seek to reinstate a ban on assault style rifles. even if he does opposition is hardening. >> do you think an assault weapons ban can pass the congress? >> no. >> do you think it should? >> no. >> reporter: west virginia democrat joe manchin, who sounded open to new gun control measures immediately after the newtown massacre now wants a slow moving washington commission. >> if you just want gun bans you're wrong. >> what do we need? >> we need a comprehensive approach. >> reporter: with sales of firearms that congress might ban now sky rocketing, a top senate democrat called for a voluntary moratorium. >> if we continue to see nearly 80,000 gun sales each month in states all over the country, it's going to be counterproductive to whatever solution we will implement. >> reporter: the new york legislature sped towards passage of a tough new assault weapons ban. a move more states may copy as similar efforts stall in
. >> congress authorizes spending. they order me to spend. they tell me you need to fund our defense department, at such and such a level. you need to send out social security checks. you need to make sure that you are paying to care for our veterans. they lay all of this out for me. and because they have the spending power. and so i am required by law to go ahead and pay these bills. separately, they also have to authorize the raising of the debt ceiling in order to make sure that those bills are paid. and so what congress can't do is tell me to spend x, and then say but we're not going to give you the authority to go ahead and pay the bills. >> the economist made a laundry list of what would happen if congressional republicans refused to raise the debt limit. failure to raise the debt ceiling would force immediate spending cuts equal for 6% of gdp. not only would that threaten to send the economy back into recession, it would also deprive many of money needed to meet their own obligations, setting off a chain reaction of defaults that could incite investors to dump their holdings, driving up
to being secretary of defense. they are very close and i don't know that obama had a deep relationship with him, but there other ways in which his fingerprints are on the president's policies and afghanistan won the argument. two things here i would add on guns specifically. biden in a way is -- a messenger for obama and sectors that may not trust him. he's got working class roots from industrial pennsylvania. he's catholic. i guess that the white house sees him as a messenger to people who might be skeptical and have ideas of what obama's agenda is and that biden could be a better messenger on this. i hate to bring up the 2016 number, but i think you may see more opportunities for biden to step out and prove himself in his own standing if he wants to run for president. >> the one thing i would add is nobody understands personal tragedy and is able to speak to that in an emotional compelling way as joe biden. going back to what you were saying about very little hope of this package or really much of anything, passing it is republican house. what do you think the white house strategy is
the defense industry, which is not to say that there aren't plenty of democrats whose bread is not being buttered by defense contractors, but if you look down at the breakdown of sequester cuts, defense gets hit with $55 billion in cuts, but they are much more severe, and as dave wood from the huffington post has said, it's like taking a meat clever to the defense industry. the nondefense cuts, 55 billion, same amount, but social security, retirement, veterans medicaid, snap, food stamps and jobless benefits are all exempt, steve. >> i think there's a sort of story here now that's been two years in the making where at some point this is going to have to come to a head. at some point president obama is going to have to call the bluff of the republicans. there were battles over continuing resolutions to fund the government in 2011. there was a summer of 2011 with the debt ceiling. there was the super committee. they were setting up the fiscal cliff. now we've got continuing resolution in march. now we've got the sequester, march 1st. now we've got debt ceiling all over again. one of these
came back from that and put banned performance enhancing drugs in his body. his great defense was, after what i've been through, do you think i would put that stuff in my body and, of course, everybody said, everybody bought that because it was so plausible. so for lance to have actually doped after cancer was a pretty tough thing to do and i think it indicated a win at all costs attitude that was commendable and it was a seriously wrong thing to do. >> you were one of the very first people to question lance armstrong. it goes all the way back to 1999. what was it that made you suspicious in the first place? >> my first point of kind of suspicion was watching lance's treatment of a young french rider and there will be people out there, if they were all doping, how wrong -- how can you blame lance and single him out? they all weren't doping and one of the guys who did not dope in 1999 was a young french rider, and he offered the pin that you couldn't win this tour de france in '99 without doping and much of the colleagues resented him saying that. the guy who most resented him sayi
authorizes spending. they order me to spend. they tell me you need to fund our defense department at such and such a level. you need to send out social security checks. you need to make sure that your paying to care for our veterans. they lay all this out for me. and because they have the spending power. and so i am required by law to go ahead and pay these bills. >> many republicans are willing to just let it all burn to the ground. politico reported more and morehouse republicans are planning to damage the economy. gop officials said more than half of their members are prepared to allow default unless president obama agrees to dramatic cuts. he has repeatedly said he opposes. john boehner does not have any clout with the tea party members of the congress. this is the big problem. here comes congressman ralph hall of texas. he's got a rather radical view of what it means to raise the debt ceiling. >> we made a mistake when we increased the debt limit the first time and gave this guy all the money to buy votes with. we shouldn't make the mistake now. >> this is a guy walking into
and washington defense lawyer, bernie and ted. ted, i'm going to start with you. this woman says she has pediphobia and she's chosen the occupation of teaching. >> that's the question he, why would she choose the occupation of it teaching. it's real and it's-- ted, and-- >> i've got to get this out. i've got to get it out. what happened is this school district had this woman independently tested in 1997, found out that she did in fact suffer from this, and all of a sudden. >> greta: you know what we're going to have a screening on you, we're going to have a screening on you. >> hold on, guys, we get to 2009 and she goes to some of the parents, tell them about a course eliminated and as a result decided to send her back to the junior high school and she had been in the high school for 35 years. >> greta: help me. >> and a good ada claim. >> greta: i'm sitting next to him, almost like terrified, help he me. >> i forgot how much i missed ted, greta. that was a beauty. listen, it's just one of those times i had to make sure this wasn't the april fool's packet and i'm embarrassed to be a lawy
big defense cuts. lindsey graham's even saying, it's better than nothing. what do you say? do you think sequestration has to be avoided at all cost, or could it go into effect, forcing some sort of spending cuts and fiscal discipline? >> well, i think we can and we should continue to both reduce expenditures and add revenues in a balanced approach to debt reduction that should take several years. it took several years from 2000, where we had a surplus under president clinton to get to a deficit under president bush. so it will take some time. but i think sequestration is a blunt instrument. it doesn't allow the cabinet secretaries, not just the secretary of defense, but the secretary of every other agency, to make judicious judgments about which programs are higher priority. and we in the congress should be able to make those judgments ourselves, working with the administration. so i don't think it's the right instrument. i think the goal is appropriate, which is to reduce the deficit, do it in a balanced way, and recognize that there are some things that you can do up-front, quic
not be so confused. "the constitutional right about guns is for self-defense and hunting. founders did not mean modern weapons of war." lining up the crazy is not a difficult task for the right wing these days. but this rhetoric and hysteria i think is very dangerous. there is no basis to call the president of the united states a tyrant or a dictator, and no president ever deserves to be compared to stalin or hitler. but of course it continues. it happened earlier this week. someone needs to be an adult in the room to tell them to cool it. you know? this is america. but abusing the first amendment really is not good. there is a responsibility when you're in front of a camera and you have a microphone. and if this is the way they want to use it, what do you think is going to happen? get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, will republican leadership denounce this type of rhetoric? text a for yes. text b for no to 622639. you can go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. i'm joined tonight by caryn finney, msnbc
have already made to priorities other than medicare, medicaid, so security and defense mean that we spend on everything from education to public safety less as a share of the economy that has been true for a generation. that is not a recipe for growth. we have to do more to stabilize the finances over the medium and long-term, and also spur more growth in the short term. i have said i am hoping to making modest adjustments to programs like medicare to protect them for future generations. i also said we need more revenue for tax reform by closing loopholes for the wealthiest americans. if we combine a balanced package of savings from spending on health care and revenues from closing loopholes, we consult the deficit issue without sacrificing our investments in things like education that are going to help us grow. it turns out the american people agree with me. they listened to an entire year's debate over this issue, and they made a clear decision about the approach they prefer. they do not think it is fair to ask a senior to pay more for his or her health care or a scientist to shut
is marian wright edelman, founder and president of the children's defense fund and also mayor mark klinechman who is author of "against guns. ooh" and also, a parent whose daughter was shot and injured in the mass shooting in va tech in 1997 in which 32 people were murdered. and amy walter who is senior editor of the "cook report." thank you all for being here. amy, i want to thastart with yo because the biggest part of being a inside is knowing what questions you should ask, so as gun control, what should we be asking? >> well, as washington insider with retalk about the policy and the prescriptions and the actual policy that a lot of folks would like to see happen or prevent from happening on guns. at the same time what's missing in this discussion is the cultural issues here which i think that we forget about in washington that when we talk about gun ownership here and in nerdland, we talk about specific policies, but think that for a lot of people, what gun ownership is not about how many bullets you can buy or what kinds of guns you can own, but it is about a way of life, and
cuts for defense and most federal agencies. but only for two months. kicking the can on tough decisions to reduce government spending >> jon: did i say save? i meant moved her a half mile further down the track. so these massive spending cuts will coincide with another debt ceiling battle. is there anything in this debacle that we can all agree on? >> house speaker john boehner had kind of a rough week here. the at a party folks not happy with the deal that he struck >> the president was able to get the speaker to undo everything he had promised he would do >> where are you? mr. speaker, we need leadership. >> tonight i am ashamed, shame on you, mr. speaker. >> jon: republican or democrat, senator or congressman, team edward or team jacob, everyone agrees john boehner sucks. at least we can be assured that as the incoming congress votes for a new speaker of the house, it's clear what the outcome is going to be. >> john boehner won re-election as house speaker today. >> jon: oh, boy. (train whistle blowing) >> jon: welcome back to the show. listen. as you may recall, a couple months ago
's interesting that a lot of times, you have people who recognize that when it comes to defense spending. some of the same folks who say we've got to cut spending or complain that government jobs don't do anything, when it comes to that defense contractor in their district, they think, wow, this is a pretty important part of the economy in my district. we shouldn't stop spending on that. let's just make sure that we're not spending on those other folks. [ inaudible question ] >> look, my hope is that common sense prevails. that's always my preference. and i think that would be the preference of the american people and that's what would be good for the economy. so let me just repeat. if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take, and we've already done probably more than half of the deficit
with spending in regard to the upcoming defense cuts, the sequester. they want to put the debt limit off for three months, get it out of the headlines, not let the president use it as a republican punching bag. trying to tell his colleagues, come to the center, let's move on to other issues. >> one of the interesting things about the way they did it and in doing it for only three months, dave, when you do it for three months the idea is you can always come back to it if you want. but it seems to me, certainly the way it is being reacted to or being read in the press, in saying there is going to be a three-month extension before the debate, they are saying we know we can't win a fight. we know we'll cave at the end of that. so seems like the threat is no longer credible. >> a lot of it did, what the republicans were saying, they were trying to educate their new members on exactly how the debt ceiling worked because that might not have been done last time. and paul ryan has the sort of, these are not the androids you're looking for, this will allow it to be your principle -- they just conv
was going to win the heisman, man. >> he won every defensive award, best player on defense, second in the heisman, unheard of for a defensive player. and part of his story throughout the season was that in september of last year at the beginning of the season, his grandmother died, and then his girlfriend died within hours of each other. >> heartbreaking story. >> the reports range from an hour to a couple of days. >> you were watching and you cried. >> can i just say, my son, joey, said there's something wrong with this guy. he told me this months ago. >> joey is kind of wise. >> i was watching espn over the holidays. because alabama was on, the story. and they tell this story. and then i got a call the next morning. and it was like no, no, no! and i started tearing up. and i was like -- and then they showed him running onto the field. and i was, like, how did the guy do that the week after he found out that his grandmother and his girlfriend died, and then they went on to say he played for her the day they buried her, man. it was the most remarkable story. and i actually called j
our answers. john. >> jim writes, i bet you have no idea what position he plays. >> defensive end. come on. who are you trying to kid? so john, i've got a tweet. up early so i can start my usual commute on time and so i can cuddle with this guy. this is from elaine don. do we have the picture? aww, look at that. so cute. "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ >>> only at the golden globes do the beautiful people of film rub shoulders with the rat-faced people of television. >> ben's first two movies took place in boston, but he moved this one to iran because he wanted to film somewhere that was friendlier to outsiders. "hunger games" was one of the biggest films of the year and also what i call the six weeks it took me to get into this dress. >> ang li's been nominated for best director for "the life of pi" which is what i'm going to call the six weeks after i take this dress off. >> okay, they were awesome. i thought they were perfect. >> hilarious. >> they were hilarious. good morning, everyone. welcome to "morning joe." it's monday, january 14th. with us on set, we have msnbc cont
% defense against the flu, this really raises your chances of not getting it. and if you do receive it, and you do actually get the flu, there's a good chance that the flu that you get, the symptoms are going to be much less. you'll be sick for fewer days and your fever will be -- your symptoms -- you'll feel much better. and it will not be anywhere near as severe as if you had not received the vaccine. >> right. so let me ask you, as somebody who has not gotten a flu shot because i have not yet. if i wait for new stocks to come in, are those vaccines better suited to the flu? do they then become more effective as the flu season goes on? >> no. the vaccine is the same vaccine that's being produced by the pharmaceutical companies. usually the world health organization will try to predict which strains are going to be the predominant strains. about a year in advance. and then it takes the pharmaceutical companies about -- probably about six months to produce the vaccine. once it's in production, it's not being modified until the subsequent flu season. >> the same vaccine you could have g
the previous year. it's also more than the 295 u.s. combat deaths in afghanistan in 2012. defense secretary leon panetta has called the problem of military suicide an epidemic. afghan president hamid karzai called today for a loya jirga-- or grand assembly-- to decide whether u.s. troops should be immune from afghan laws. the u.s. has said it needs sole legal jurisdiction over any troops who stay, after combat forces leave at the end of 2014. in a kabul speech, karzai said it would take about eight or nine months to come to a decision. it is a decision of the people of afghanistan. the national assembly of elders of the people of afghanistan should decide whether to give the i am unity or not. if they give it, under which conditions they should do so. but the americans told us that if you do not give us the i am unity, we have to leave afghanistan for good. and won't have any relationship with you. >> sreenivasan: karzai said the u.s. has agreed to his demands to respect afghan sovereignty. he discussed the issues with president obama in washington on friday. mass protests were held in isla
from rush limbaugh. he has taken a very strange twist in his defense of gun enthusiasts. he's now claiming that they are the martin luther kings in this civil rights fight. >> if a lot of african-americans back in the '60s had guns and the legal right to use them for self-defense, do you think they would have needed selma? if john lewis had had a gun, would he have been beat upside the head on the bridge? >> i have to tell you -- >> karen, listen, this is disgusting. first of all, it's not original -- >> rush is now -- it sounds like he's trying to be a member of the black panthers. this is ridiculous. >> well, there's that irony as well. but it's not original. he's taking it from the comments from the other right wing nut job who was talking about if slaves had guns. first of all, there are plenty of shotgun owners during the civil rights era, but to reduce john lewis' service to this country and the civil rights movement and the black experience and the overall american experience in this country to him getting beat upside the head is disgusting and offensive. this is a man who
is across-the-board cuts across domestic and -- >> half from defense, which is 17% of the budget, so the question is, do republicans hate defense cuts less than they would like to see the spending cuts on the domestic side? my -- after that comes march 27th, which is when the current continuing resolution on -- that funds the government expires, so we're going to have real debates about real splittable differences. >> the other thing, george, that's going to happen, and i think that this is going to begin the process of it, is that every day that goes past the inauguration is a loss of power day for the president. and you have -- you basically now have a party, the democratic party will function with him but it's been a cult of personal. fundamentally a cult of personality around the president. they'll have to figure out where they go from here and what's going to happen. the republicans are a cult of no personality and no people and they're going to have to figure out so each day goes forward i think we're going to have an increasing inability for somebody to stand up and say i repr
, because the president's time, the secretary of state's time, secretary of defense's time is pretty limited. you better know what you want to achieve in in in three years or so >> you told me earlier this morning something i had never known. upper the national security adviser, one of the president's closest aides during the first term. then you were nominated to be secretary of state, and you told me you had to go through a full background check. >> that's right. i remember thinking-- they were going out and talking to my neighbors again. and i remember thinking didn't we just do this four years ago? you know what i've been doing for the last four years. maybe it's a little bit of a sense of the turf wars in washington between the white house and state department but it was done all over again >> that's just amazing to me. bob, you have watched a few of these inaugurations. you heard david plouffe say this morning he thinks there's massive support for deficit reduction in the country, and massive support for this and that. i'm not sure how massive the support is. it seems to me everybody w
obama's nominee for defense secretary, chuck hagel. later, "q&a" with author jason brennan. >> our guest on c-span's "newsmakers" is hobby or becerra of california. josh is xavier becerra -- is xavier becerra of california. let me introduce our two reporters. ginger gibson of "politico." and mike lillis of "the hill." >> we are going to look at the fiscal cliff first. this egg, hard-fought battle over spending and cuts. you have plenty of experience in this arena. the fiscal cliff comes along. you get a deal. you voted against it here and you were the only democrat to vote against it. why did you vote against it? >> there were several of us on the democratic side that voted against it. my sense is that if we are going to really move this country forward, we have to start dealing with the big challenges we face -- physically, socially -- now, not do these short-term fixes. a long-term fix would have included something that would have disposed of the so-called fiscal cliff. i believe this short-term deal creates three new fiscal cliff's, which is not the way you want to run -- whether it i
will support his nomination as secretary of defense. it seems like the frost is melting, but there's still the frost from the right. >> well, there is. i think we'll see some contentious hearings. we heard some hints over the weekend that republicans will bring out former staffers, former aides who have clashed with hagel in the past. senator bob kosher in tennessee said that i think on cbs' sunday show, so no smooth sailing by any means, but at the end of the day, having schumer on board is a big deal, having boxer on board is a big deal. and with 5 of them, we'll see whether or not republicans really want to use their political capital in trying to filibuster a nominee, especially one by the way, who will have so much support from outside groups like veterans associations. >> there'sing so much talk about how there is frost between the left and right. i want to get your take on this. this was a statement made by the president yesterday at the last press conference of his first administration. it was about the aloofness perception that seems to get out there around him and his inner circl
of the economy. for example, former defense secretary robert gates has warned the rising -- he has warned of rising military costs for years. >> sharply rising health care costs are consuming an ever-larger share of this department. growing from 19 billion 234 in . >> military health care costs have gone up 300% in the past decade. 2012 was the first year since 1995 military personnel saw an increase in health care premiums. now, there are two things republicans love. the military and reducing the deficit. republican should be thrilled with the public option. how can you make a hundred billion dollar mistake? who's doing the math? will it save or won't it save? let's turn to the author of the bill, january schawowsky of illinois. >> i'm so happy that wendy is doing well. >> thank you. we appreciated your phone calls very much. congresswoman, the math? >> the estimate is it's $104 billion over 10 years. it saves the government money. in terms of the subsidies, in the exchanges, it would be one option that americans could choose the cost would be 5-7% less and it would be an anchor pulling
self-defense hom sighed a year and 309,000 gun deaths a year. tomorrow the vice president will send his boss recommendations for the white house's gun control package. this is part of what could be the most crucial moment in the obama administration. perhaps the most important legislation they'll ever propose. because gun laws do work. studies have shown firearm deaths are significantly lower in states with stricter gun legislation. this map shows the ten states with the strongest gun laws and the ten with the lowest gun death rates. the correlation the seven states in green is strong. banning assault weapons, requiring trigger locks, and mandating safe storage works. the nra would like you to believe no legislation woot help. no one obvious law could have stopped adam lanza but we can make our world safer. public policy is meant to be aspir rational, to try to make the world better. the white house knows it just as it knows the right has gone far extreme on this, so far into second amendment absolutism, if it's not any weapon anywhere they will lead you down the
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